Zooomr Launches Paid Pro Accounts [NOW WITH VIDEO]
Last night Kristopher rolled out our paid Pro accounts. Pro accounts are $19.95 per year on Zooomr. By upgrading to Pro you help ensure that we can keep Zooomr going, keep developing, and keep innovating in this great new world of online photography. We have a lot of great plans for Zooomr in the weeks and months ahead, but we can’t do it without you the community and we can’t do it without your financial support.
As you all know, Zooomr at the basic level is free. We will always have a free version of Zooomr. We think it’s important that everybody in the world be able to participate regardless of their ability to pay for Zooomr or not. But… we do need to make at least a little money to survive. The community has stepped up and helped us in the most generous of ways and we are hoping that all of you who find Zooomr meaningful will also consider helping us out by turning Pro.
To upgrade to Pro you can go to your main Zooomr welcome page here. (You have to be logged into the site).
Some of you are already Pro and some of you even Pro4Life (we will have these designations back shortly). We do still appreciate any donations that you might want to send our way and have a link on your Zooomr home page if you feel so inclined. To those who have already donated. Thank you. You mean the world to us.
A lot of people ask what the difference between a Pro account and a Free account is. At the basic level Pro accounts won’t see advertisements while free accounts will see advertisements. We haven’t had any ads on Zooomr Mark III yet but will be implementing some in the near future to help pay the bills. By upgrading you assure yourself that when you browse Zooomr that you won’t see these ads.
But more than ads vs. no ads, Kristopher is developing some cool and interesting ways that Pros will be able to access Zooomr. An enhanced version of Discover. Zooomr Analytics where you can much better track the activity on your photostream. And many other cool new features.
We are still working hard on restoring the functionality for a lot of our free services that we had in Zooomr V2. Recent Activity is coming back. As are SmartSets, your favorites, and lots of other stuff — with a lot of improvements as well. But we do need your help to do all of this and we are hoping that you will find Zooomr a worthwhile enough service to help us out.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:40 am
It would be very very nice if it was free for everybody, with no differences between pros and basics.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:44 am
I still have problems with the basic version. Many thing do not work. It would be great to develop a full functional version.
I can´t discover Pics on the map, storefront does not work. I often get a “page not found”.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:02 am
It would be very very nice if it was free for everybody, with no differences between pros and basics.
Hi Michele. While this would be nice, the reality of the world is that Zooomr has to make some money to survive. If we could we would make it free for everyone but we do need to make some money to continue offering the site.
I can´t discover Pics on the map, storefront does not work. I often get a “page not found”.
der_rolli. Storefront is a future feature that will be rolled out in the weeks ahead and we hope to have our pics on the map back up and online soon.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:37 am
Hi Thomas,
thanks for your Reply. I can´t see any photo on the map. If i geotag my photos again they don´t appear on the map too.
ZOOOMR is great and i love it. I know you are working hard to make it run.
I would pay for a pro-account if all would be functional. At the momenten too many features like creating a Smart-Set, Posting photos to groups and other things don´t work.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:39 am
Some people (me too) are still unable to upload[1]…
Good luck.
[1] http://blog.zooomr.com/2007/06/20/uploading-troubleshttp://blog.zooomr.com/2007/06/20/uploading-troubles/#comments
June 25th, 2007 at 8:48 am
Really glad to see the option to pay for Pro accounts has been introduced. I honestly think this should have been part of Mark II as well, but at least it’s up now.
Let’s hope Kris can take care of the more glaring bugs in the very near future, so people won’t keep complaining about features that don’t work, and will be willing to pay the small Pro fee (which, btw, is less than any other photo sharing site at the Pro level.)
June 25th, 2007 at 8:52 am
i agree with raoul… the fee is small, the site is great but it has to work at first…
June 25th, 2007 at 8:58 am
Thomas, pardon me, but this sounds like a joke.
For now, Mark III is lacking some very important features. Features that were advertised before the launch of Mark III. Think of the storefront, for example. Map does not work. Many other things are half there, half away. In conclusion, Mark III is less feature-rich than Mark II and it’s no fun using it at all with all these 404-errors. If you don’t have a feature yet, then hide the link! This only confuses the users.
And now you’re asking for paying support. Sorry, but this just won’t work. Some of your hardcore users will upgrade, but the majority will stick with other services and even quit using Zooomr. I’m sorry to say that, I hoped the best for Mark III before it’s launch and I really anticipated it, but in my opinion, it’s launch and also it’s current state is a desaster.
Sorry for these harsh words, but that’s just my 2 cents.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:24 am
I’ll gladly pay…
when I know that it works.
Until then, I’ll keep me hands in me pockets.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:41 am
Good work you guys! Thanks for all of the effort and keep it up. I am loving the new features and I also really like watching the problems being solved in real time. (although some would disagree)
Its cool what you (and we) are doing here, with such a tight community. So keep it up and you for sure have some donation money coming your way from all of the “hard-core” MII Pro users.
Thanks again.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:42 am
As a paying customer … will i be able to upload photos with a browser operating under Linux like Firefox for Linux?
Don’t get me wrong - Zooomr may be great … for Windows Users. But as a Linux user i can’t even upload photos - that’s a bit fat slap in the face of everyone using Open Source.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:56 am
As a paying customer … will i be able to upload photos with a browser operating under Linux like Firefox for Linux?
Don’t get me wrong - Zooomr may be great … for Windows Users. But as a Linux user i can’t even upload photos - that’s a bit fat slap in the face of everyone using Open Source.
Adminblogger, there is a bug with our uploader and Linux/Firefox at present that we are aware of and will hopefully have fixed soon.
We love Linux. Zooomr runs on Linux.
This is in no way meant as a slap in the face. We are working hard to fix this. We also will have jUploadr back up online soon which works with Linux. Please bear with us while we get this fixed.
I’ll gladly pay…
when I know that it works.
Incognito. Working very, very, hard to make it all work. Zooomr works better this week than last week and better still than the week before. We are working 16-20 hour days, every day, 7 days a week, and will not stop working until we get Zooomr where it needs to be.
Think of the storefront, for example.
Denny, this is a future feature that we will be launching.
If you don’t have a feature yet, then hide the link!
Denny, right now the priority is on fixing bugs and feature before hiding links. It’s a matter of prioritization. We’d like inactive features to be hidden as much as you would. We have one engineer who is working his tail off to get as much done as is humanly possible. Storefront will be activated in the future and when *hiding links* hits the priority list when things like SmartSets and Recent activity are back online then we will do this.
Keep in mind that Zooomr is up and running today *and* improving on a daily basis. This is in contrast to other companies that have dozens of employees, engineers, and money behind them.
I would only ask for patience with you while we get the site to where it needs to be.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:06 am
And guys, paying for Pro accounts *helps* Zooomr. It *helps* us fix all the bugs that need to be fixed. We are not making gobs of money here. But basic things like rent and food are real needs. Neither Kristopher nor I take a salary from Zooomr nor have we ever.
Kristopher is working hard every day and will not stop working until all of our features are back online and bugs fixed. He’s already fixed bugs today. He fixed bugs yesterday. He fixed bugs the day before.
The best way for people to help Zooomr fix what needs to be fixed right now if for people who can to support us with Pro accounts and donations.
We are working hard to make the world of photography a better place. It’s with your help that this will be realized.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:21 am
“Keep in mind that Zooomr is up and running today…”
No, it isn’t. It’s up and LIMPING.
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“… and when *hiding links* hits the priority list when things like SmartSets and Recent activity are back online then we will do this.”
I think the OP meant to hide things like smartsets links NOW, because they don’t work, as opposed to hiding them later when the links DO work. Doh!
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Geotagging… Soooo… I looked at a geotagged photo… in FF, to the right of the photo I can see a map and coordinates, but no marker on the map. In IE, the page loads, then up comes an error message, then a page redirection.
Sorry to rain on your parade
June 25th, 2007 at 10:34 am
@Thomas & Kris:
It is not the fact that many features are not functioning properly that bothers me. It’s the attitude. I have only recently joined Zooomr and after uploading just 4 photos I noticed some extra contrast being applied to them which made them look ugly. I’ve laid out my thoughts in one of the photos’ comments, in a zmail message addressed to Kristopher as well as in the issues help thread only to see that noone even cared to tell me I’ve been heard. I knew more important issues were being fixed at the time - things that would eventually be completed, so I didn’t care so much about one feature or another not functioning. However, I mind lacking the tools to report an issue or express an opinion and be able to track what this results in. A help thread where people keep complaining about the lack of a proper way to report issues and track them, where people have come up with the idea to try to emphasize the words they think need to be highlighted by making them bold-faced just doesn’t feel right.
I knew that you’d been working on fixing more critical stuff so I waited patiently even so none of my messages got any responses ever. Now I see you’ve been busy rolling out Pro accounts…
Well, I’ve waited more than I’m willing to.
You guys have such a great community, noone would even notice the difference.
I wish you good luck and many sitisfied customers!
June 25th, 2007 at 10:53 am
It is good.
But firstly I think that u should remove all the bugs asap. I think we users are willing to pay to use an excellence service. No one would like to pay for a defective product or service.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:29 am
I think the OP meant to hide things like smartsets links NOW, because they don’t work, as opposed to hiding them later when the links DO work. Doh!
Incognito, hiding them now means doing this coding work at the expense of fixing other bugs. like showing an exact marker on geotags that you mention. All of this will get done, it’s a matter of prioritization.
If the quesiton is asked, would people rather have storefront hidden on the site or SmartSets back I think most would want SmartSets back. So we are trying to prioritize the work to be done. To a degree some of this is also based on how easy something is to do. Sometimes something less important might be implemented tomorrow if it takes 5 minutes to implement. You say you want these future feature links hidden NOW. Well a lot of people also want SmartSets NOW and Recent Activity NOW and uploads in Linux with Firefox to work NOW.
It’s not that we are avoiding doing these things or that we are sitting around on our hands. There are very few sites the magnitude and scope of Zooomr being developed by a single developer. Someday we will have more substantial money and will hire more engineers.
I assure you though, two weeks ago when Zooomr was not even able to stay up and online that this was a priority to hiding links to inactive features.
We are not saying we are not going to do these things. We are saying that everything can’t be done NOW as you’d like.
It is not the fact that many features are not functioning properly that bothers me. It’s the attitude. I have only recently joined Zooomr and after uploading just 4 photos I noticed some extra contrast being applied to them which made them look ugly. I’ve laid out my thoughts in one of the photos’ comments, in a zmail message addressed to Kristopher as well as in the issues help thread only to see that noone even cared to tell me I’ve been heard.
Nasko, first off. Kristopher is working 20 hours a day. Unfortunately he does not have time to even check his Zmail right now let alone respond. I’d encourage you to contact me for some of this stuff as well. Although even I’m spread thin right now too. I will tell you though that I have personally answered hundreds of email/zmails in the last week.
However, I mind lacking the tools to report an issue or express an opinion and be able to track what this results in.
Nasko we are one of the most transparent companies that exists today. Your expressing your opinion right now on this blog. But there are lots of other ways to express your opinion on Zooomr. If you read our FAQ which is linked to the “Learn More” button on Zooomr it directs you to send feedback to zfeedback@bbridgetec.com. Kristopher and I are both copied on these emails. We will fix all issues. We just need time.
There is also a thread in Zooomr Help where bugs are being submitted:
http://beta.zooomr.com/groups/help/discuss/7/
But firstly I think that u should remove all the bugs asap.
CY. Zooomr can’t survive to fix bugs without support from the community. As much as we’d rather be fixing bugs than building a way to upgrade to Pro we don’t have that luxury at the moment. Paying for Zooomr is the best way to ensure that all the bugs are removed asap. But keep in mind that asap means that Kristopher is going to have to sleep and eat for a few hours each day. Trust me when I tell you that nobody wants every bug on zooomr squashed more than we do. And Kristopher *is* working and he *is* working hard.
The best way to support him though is make sure that he gets to eat.
Everyone is going to have an opinion on what should be fixed first. For some it will be hiding inactive features. For others it will be getting SmartSets back up on line. Still others will think that fixing uploading for Linux Firefox users ought to be priority number one. But before any of these things can happen Zooomr needs to be able to pay rent and buy food for Kristopher to eat. And he survives on pretty cheap food.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:37 am
What Nasko and many others have already said.
We’ve all been waiting patiently for a working Zooomr. More than half of the things still do NOT work. Now you ask for payment for PRO accounts? When we still can not even access our own account info??
Huh??!
With the Flickr exile swinging into full force very soon, you guys better get on the ball or stand to lose many opportunities. I have no problem paying for an account, IF we got what we were paying for NOW, not a few months from now.
IPERNITY already has you beat, guys… sorry.
PS: I’m sure you’ll CENSR this message and not let it post, won’t ya?
June 25th, 2007 at 11:39 am
@Thomas, what’s the difference between pro and pro4life account? is the latter a prepaid account? I am not sure how long I am gonna live though.
How does the latter acct works? Thanks
June 25th, 2007 at 11:54 am
More than half of the things still do NOT work.
Deeva, more than half of the things on Zooomr do work. This is an exaggeration. Zooomr has thousands of things which must work and interact together.
When we still can not even access our own account info??
What account info are you trying to access? I’d be perfectly willing to try and help you out with this regard. Do you want to change your screen name, your email, your password? I’m happy to try and help with all of these. I can’t add avatars but that’s another feature that hopefully will be online soon. Tell me what kind of account info you need help with and I will try and help.
PS: I’m sure you’ll CENSR this message and not let it post, won’t ya?
Deeva, you don’t know me very well. I don’t censor messages.
Yohannes. Pro4Life accounts will always be Pro, as long as they and Zooomr live. These are some of our earliest members who stuck by us with some early trials and tribulations. We have a record of all Pro4Life accounts and will be restoring the Pro4Life labels on these accounts in the near future.
And I hope you are going to live a long, long time. I’m planning on living a long time myself as I have to finish 500,000 photographs before I die.
With the Flickr exile swinging into full force very soon, you guys better get on the ball or stand to lose many opportunities. I have no problem paying for an account, IF we got what we were paying for NOW, not a few months from now.
And we are very grateful for the many Flickr users who have signed up for Zooomr. People keep using the word “NOW” in all caps. Writing software code is not just a matter of clicking your heels 3x and returning home from Oz. Kristopher worked all weekend long and was up last night until 3am. He was up this morning at 6am. I know because he was at my house. And many of you know because you saw him on ZooomrTV.
Personally I’m quite proud of what we’ve done here at Zooomr so far. We are working our hearts out and as hard as humanly possible. Writing code takes time. That’s all there is to it. As good as Kristopher is he is still just one man.
If Zooomr NOW or NEVER is the choice for you then I’m sorry if we lose you. But we will continue working hard to make the site a better and better place in the meantime. In the past week thousands of new users have signed up for Zooomr. Nothing will make us happier than when we can get Zooomr 100% to the place that we know it will get to.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:55 am
If we could all have what we wanted NOW, and have it for FREE, I’m sure we would! But I don’t think many serious people expect this is any other part of their life, and Zooomr is no exception. If you want a fully mature site, then there are lots to choose from. And lots to complain about in them as well. Flickr, Fotki, they’ve all got pages of people whinging about them, too! But what they don’t have is the transparency of Zooomr, or the real engagement with the site’s creators.
So I know I’m paying for an unfinished product. I know too that it may fail before it ever gets finished. I might have wasted my money and my good faith. Well, if I only ever waste $20 in my life I’ll have done pretty well, I reckon.
So to Thomas and Kris I say you have my support, for what it’s worth. I signed up for pro today, and sent a small donation too. I hope lots of other people do too. A self-help community is one that helps itself, not one that waits for commercial perfection before risking the princely sum of $20!
June 25th, 2007 at 11:58 am
Thomas - this seems to be a chicken and an egg thing.
I would like to support Zooomr but what is the chance it is around in 6 months or a year.
From memory you are on borrowed servers from Zoho and Sun??
You haven’t even got ads up on site to pay for this yet.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:05 pm
Thomas
Apologies for my using caps e.g. “NOW”, it’s just that I’m not techie enough to figure out how to use italics or bold on here. Is it html, bbcode or something else?
Inco….
p.s. please feel free to edit my caps to italics, so they don’t offend, which was not my intention.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:06 pm
I would like to support Zooomr but what is the chance it is around in 6 months or a year.
From memory you are on borrowed servers from Zoho and Sun??
You haven’t even got ads up on site to pay for this yet.
CJ. I sure hope Zooomr is around in 6 months or a year and am very confident that it will be. I not only have staked my personal reputation on this site I’ve put in thousands of hours worth of work. I’ve also taken out a second mortgage on my home to pay for some of the development to date.
We are very grateful to Sun and Zoho for their generosity. We hope that we will not always have to depend on the generosity of the community and that we can 100% pay our own way at some point in the future. Getting this Pro accounts up today is a start towards this and a step in the right direction.
I had a very good call in fact with Sun Microsystems just this morning. It is great to see them support start ups like this and we will certainly benefit from their technology. I
We will have ads up on the site very soon to help as well. But ads on free accounts actually generate much, much, less revenue than paid subscriptions.
I feel very good about Zooomr’s ability to survive longer term. Stock photography sales will also help bolster our finances in the months ahead.
StevieB, really appreciate both your friendship and your support Pal!
June 25th, 2007 at 12:18 pm
Apologies for my using caps e.g. “NOW”, it’s just that I’m not techie enough to figure out how to use italics or bold on here. Is it html, bbcode or something else?
No problem incogneto.
Here’s a little primer on how to designate html code if you are interested.
http://www.ncsu.edu/it/edu/html_trng/basic_commands.html
We do appreciate the emphasis on the urgency and immediacy though and really do wish that every single bug with Zooomr could be fixed now.
And we do appreciate everyone who has donated and upgraded to Pro today
June 25th, 2007 at 1:18 pm
@Thomas, thanks for the reply. @StevieB, I think you pretty much sums up my thought on this issue of Zooomr selling pro accts to keep growing despite scattered bugs, unfinished features, etc.
The question many of us have is why pay for a photo online service that is yet to be fully operational. One might as well put their money to other well-established companies, not to mention the hours, one has to dedicate to upload his or her photo collection over time and the personal relationships you build with other community members. I personally think it’s all about faith. I believe in Zooomr. If Zooomr were to close shop in 6 months, did I regret wasting 20 bucks?, did I regret wasting all the time I spent uploading my photos?, etc. For me, the answer is no. I am even privileged to be in the position to help them grow as far as they can. My only regret would be not helping them as much as I could have. Of course, I believe Zooomr will not fall but march relentlessly ahead. That’s why Zooomr needs brave people like you guys.
Perhaps, many of us don’t care whether Kristopher & Thomas can survive for another day, we just want a finished product that serves our needs. Fair Enough. But I believe the folks who help as much as they can at the early rocky stage by paddling the boat on a stormy sea in hope of a calmer one ahead, are the ones who matter.
So, Kris & Thomas, Here’s my support because I believe in Zooomr and more importantly in both of you.
June 25th, 2007 at 1:30 pm
This is a really important step. Though I’m Pro4life myself I think paid Pros are important and necessary for Zooomr to keep running. I have to admit that I was a bit disappointed with the missing/buggy features but I’ve seen Zooomr regain strength in the last weeks and I am confident it will continue to do so.
I also hope that paid pros and donations will help to solve the “one-developer-only”-state because that seems like the most obvious bottleneck. Kris should be able to have free weekends.
Needless to say you’re doing a great job (you probably know best how great it really is). Still I can understand users who are not satisfied with the current state but as this will improve over time it should not hinder them to support Zooomr.
It’s also great that open criticism is possible with Zooomr, I think it’s important and very different to most other companies. Keep it up!
June 25th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
T&K,
nevermind the ones who lost faith, we’ll make it!
all the best
June 25th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
Zooomr… the best.
A kiss
Faby
June 25th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
Thomas, as if you don’t know, the account settings page is not available to us. Other things are not available as well. And yes, a lot is working. But, already offering paid Pro accounts and making sure little bells and whistles are up and running before a basic item like the account settings page is available seems a little premature to me.
I have no doubt that Zooomr will improve over time; “over time” being the key phrase here. You guys are “working very, very hard” as you always say… I can respect that. But, with the amount of bugs that are in place right now, and with any hardware or financial resource issues you guys have – well, maybe you should have waited a bit longer before releasing… and even longer yet to make sure it all worked as planned before peddling paid Pro accounts.
Good luck. I’ll still be a fan of your photos though, no matter what happens with Zooomr
June 25th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
Here is my $20 with the belief you guys will hit critical mass.
June 25th, 2007 at 5:27 pm
What about those of us that got upgraded to Pro due to Blogging?
Will that Pro designation come back to us?
If so for how long?
Also, if you get the storefronts working, which I thought was the primary difference in the new version, you will start to see income come in through your commission on sales. I’ve been eagerly waiting for this part to be activated, but I’m at the point now of going back to exposuremanager.com or a homebuilt backend on my site.
June 25th, 2007 at 5:30 pm
Correction, sort of:
I just noticed if I go to the accounts page it still says “Pro”, so it has not gone away yet (just not seen on every page).
The rest of the questions still stand: Will it go away? If so, when?
June 25th, 2007 at 5:51 pm
Thomas, as if you don’t know, the account settings page is not available to us. Other things are not available as well. And yes, a lot is working. But, already offering paid Pro accounts and making sure little bells and whistles are up and running before a basic item like the account settings page is available seems a little premature to me.
Deeva. The account settings page is super important. Being able to change your screen name is super important as is being able to change your email and password. But prior to this launch a lot of other people thought other things were important too. Maybe even more important than the account page.
For instance. A lot of our users complained about OpenID. They said that they just couldn’t get it or understand it. They wanted a simple username/email and password logon.
A lot of users were also upset about having to relog into Zooomr every day. They wanted to be able to log in once and have Zooomr remember them.
A lot of our users also wanted groups. Forums where they could communicate with each other and with us. Places where Zooomr could be more social for them.
Now, is the account page more important than these other features? I’m not sure. But you feel it’s very important. I can pretty much manually do all of the basic account page stuff. I can change your url for you. I can change your screen name for you. I can change the email associated with your account. In fact I can pretty much do anything that you need with the account page with the exception of creating avatars.
So our decision was to go ahead and bring Mark III online as is. By offering to manually change account page features for people I think we go a long way. But is the account page more important than Pro accounts? No.
What you don’t seem to get is that in order to bring the account page back Zooomr needs to survive. In order to survive Zooomr needs money. Not a lot of money. But if we don’t pay Kristohper’s rent then his landlord comes hunting us down. And if we don’t pay the electricity bill then we have no power to operate the computer to build the account page. Frankly we should have had Pro accounts up a lot sooner. But we thought some things (like making sure large size photos were safe or making sure private photos stayed private, etc.) were more important than Pro accounts. But the account page is not more important than the revenue that Zooomr needs to survive.
That said. It will get done and as mentioned before I am *perfectly willing* to make any manual changes personally for you that you desire to have made.
What about those of us that got upgraded to Pro due to Blogging?
Will that Pro designation come back to us?
If so for how long?
ShootHouston. yes. And if you want to shoot me a fan mail on Zooomr with the url in question I’ll double check it myself and manually recode it to Pro if it is not Pro and should be.
Free Pro accounts for bloggers are good for one year. It was a very popular offer and we are super happy to have so many great bloggers on Zooomr right now.
Also, if you get the storefronts working, which I thought was the primary difference in the new version, you will start to see income come in through your commission on sales.
Before Zooomr can launch our stock photography service we will need to have critical mass in our marketplace. The best thing you can do to help Zooomr here is to continue pricing your photos that you’d like to sell.
This is also in the works.
Thanks Russell and to all who donated today. We really appreciate it. We will continue to work hard to make Zooomr the best site it can be.
June 25th, 2007 at 6:59 pm
Gotta agree with others one this one.
I’d be more than willing to pay for a pro account, but I’d rather buy a product that works…
Just a quick list of features I’d like to have (or have back, in many cases…)
- Sets
- Uploader (yup, I’m on linux)
- Favorites
- Account page
- Ability to add photos to groups (as they’re pretty useless right now)
- Map of my photos
- Avatars
- Recent Activity
- Some kind of privacy for large pictures
I was about to pay for an account when MKII came offline, so I thought I’d wait just a little bit to see how MKIII looked like. My conclusion is that I’d gladly pay for a pro account when Zooomr be at least at a Mark II status. I believe you’re not quite there yet.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:03 pm
I was about to pay for an account when MKII came offline, so I thought I’d wait just a little bit to see how MKIII looked like. My conclusion is that I’d gladly pay for a pro account when Zooomr be at least at a Mark II status. I believe you’re not quite there yet.
Konquest and very much looking forward to getting all of these back online for you.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:13 pm
If I weren’t saving all my pennies for an iPhone, I’d make a donation right now (despite the fact that with juploadr not functioning the site is essentially useless to me now) since I realize you need the money to make it work again and most people won’t pay until it works.
After Friday though I will see about retroactively paying for my pro4life account.
(Oh, and I’m very glad to see rss back. Keep up the great work.)
June 25th, 2007 at 7:24 pm
Once upon a time, there was a young man with a strong passion and vision to create a photo sharing site that would unite the world with the beauty and grace of humanity. He would work for hours on end, withstand much criticism for his efforts, try to bend time to accomplish it all by himself, and stood steadfast for his perfect vision. He would make many friends around the world and would delight to see communities and groups forming, sharing their life experiences, and their love of photography. He would bring people together in many wonderful ways… Many people decided to support this vision, not because it was totally functional, but because they knew they were making history. They knew that they were part of something great and magnificent. They knew that they were making a legend. And they would say, I remember when; I helped Zooomr when it was just a seed in a young man’s heart…
There are other corporate options out there, but few are personable enough to purely bring people globally together. Few sites allow their users to engage in an open dialog or allow their progress and sometimes regression to be as transparent as they have. Zooomr is a *legend* in the making. It’s the heart and soul of a young man much like any other cultural icon of the past. It took a lot of fans to make the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, or the Beach Boys. It’s time to support something we think is of value. Something that will be a part of history. We can all make it happen because Zooomr is all of us… We are the world. Support it as if it were your own…
Namaste.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Thanks for your quick response, Thomas.
Don’t get me wrong, I wish the best for Zooomr, but I only feel it took a huge step back before starting to run, which is not the ideal thing to do.
Good luck
June 25th, 2007 at 7:44 pm
In my experience people are either participants or observers. Participants jump in, help out, play the game, without always needing to know ahead of time how things will turn out. Observers watch carefully, wait, critique, maybe contribute comments (but not money), and act only when it’s secure. Right now Zooomr is for participants. If you’re an observer I’m sure your helpful comments are welcomed - but if you want security, and can’t stand adventure, you’re probably better off someplace else. If you’re a participant: jump in! I’ve just gone Pro, plus sent a donation. That doesn’t mean I’m happy with how things are working right now, and I’ll be following up with specific criticisms, but it does mean that I fully support the promise of Zooomr, what it could be, and honor the work that has gone into its creation.
Kristopher and Thomas are risking everything, and working their asses off. How tough is it for you “observers” to risk a few bucks for the chance to participate in, and support, an adventure like this? For the cost of a few packs of cigarettes, a couple six-packs of beer, or whatever your basic unit of measure is, you could contribute to the building of something we can all benefit from.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:07 pm
Hey Thomas, been out of town and catching up to glancing through what’s been going on. I just wanted to say great job handling the criticisms and responding with integrity.
Kris thanks for continuing to roll out your vision and sharing it with the world.
folks, i’ve got pro4life, and i’m not currently employed, but i’ll be trying to chip in anyways because i believe in what these guys are doing.
I want every new feature just as much as the next person, but maybe rather than focusing on what we think we’re entitled to, maybe we can actually try supporting them, donating, or even sending a word of encouragement.
Kris is slaving away for us… i think it’s almost inhumane not to be thankful
June 25th, 2007 at 8:17 pm
I’ve barely started using Zooomr — I left all my photos over on Flickr as I evaluated your service. But following you guys the past few weeks I felt compelled to sign up for a Pro account.
Why? Because the kind of work you have done in the face of adversity deserves support. Particularly from those of us who care about photography…
Keep up the great work. I look forward to using Zoomer soon.
June 25th, 2007 at 8:35 pm
I personaly think it is too early for paid accounts. I have no problem paying a fee for zooomr but not for Mark III at the state it is. For 6 bucks more, I can have a flickr accounts with many more features.
I would have paid for Mark II but currently there is less functionality. I’ll reconsider the fee once jUploader and smartsets are back.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:14 pm
With your pro account, would you have features which helps to protect the copyright of the images? I like the idea of sharing images for people to see, but not keen on those who likes to steal and download other people’s pics
June 26th, 2007 at 12:10 am
hi kris, hi thomas,
i´m glad to have an zooomr-account, but the time waiting on full-working markIII is very long. favorites, recent activity or the simple information how often my pics were watched aren´s working. but i have time i hope it will work in the near future. good luck guys.
do you know http://www.moo.com/?
are ther plans to build a similar service or a cooperation with moo? would be nice…
June 26th, 2007 at 12:46 am
I think $20 is a small price to pay to have a place to store and possibly sell photos.
I also think it’s a wise business decision. I already have a Pro account and have donated but would have no objection to purchasing a Pro account as well.
Why? This comment is why. She said it best.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:58 am
I’m very happy to pay the $20 for a subscription, without a doubt, but I need to see a few more things functioning first. I’ll reevaluate in a week’s time.
June 26th, 2007 at 2:15 am
Patience is the key to success.
June 26th, 2007 at 3:20 am
I think you are striking the right balance between ads and pay accounts. Nothing is free in life especially something as good as Zooomr.
Keep up the good work guys.
Sending out love from the U.K!
June 26th, 2007 at 3:57 am
Does Zooomr support slideshow feature? If not, which 3rd party service that can do it by connecting to my Zooomr account?
Please advise.
June 26th, 2007 at 5:25 am
Upload page success on Linux with:
Wine + Windows Version of Firefox + Flash Plugin
http://beta.zooomr.com/groups/68@G01/discuss/449/
June 26th, 2007 at 6:06 am
Besides all criticism here i have to say that the Zooomr team does a great job. creating a software project of this size in such few time is not easy and i am sure it will run better in some time.
Although i’m still a poor student i will not hesitate to buy a pro account when i can upload images (linux+firefox). i was glad to finde a place to go to when fl*ckr started censorship.
*thumbs up*
June 26th, 2007 at 6:46 am
[i]Free Pro accounts for bloggers are good for one year. It was a very popular offer and we are super happy to have so many great bloggers on Zooomr right now.[/i]
Harsh dude. The site’s not had a working uploader for more than a month!
June 26th, 2007 at 6:48 am
With your pro account, would you have features which helps to protect the copyright of the images? I like the idea of sharing images for people to see, but not keen on those who likes to steal and download other people’s pics
Jacob, image theft is something that we feel strongly about. Because of that we’ve limited the size of pics on Zooomr to 500px for the time being.
Once we return our account settings page we will have a setting where users can decide what size of their images to have up for display on Zooomr and who can see them.
For instance. You might choose to only let friends and family see full size high res photos. Or you might let everyone. Or you might let only you. It will be up to you.
For those photos that you elect to sell, marketers of course will need high res images. But marketing photos will be done on an opt in basis.
We are also exploring other technology and ways to keep your copyrighted photos safe. This is super important to us.
Does Zooomr support slideshow feature? If not, which 3rd party service that can do it by connecting to my Zooomr account?
Grant Zooomr has a lightbox feature at present and we hope to build/partner to build more robust slide show tools in the future.
June 26th, 2007 at 7:50 am
Thanks for all your work Guy’s.
I can see the bugs flying off now. Shame that I can’t help in some way. I am no coder and only speak english! A few more weeks and I can see the majority of the basic features being there. Then the fun starts as we start to see the real power of MKIII.
I must say that I have had my doubts about how you have progressed the upgrade but then again the address does say beta.zooomr.com so you have got to expect some blips. I am sure that when you come through this you will be a lot wiser for MKIV and the trials ahead as you grow.
I really like the feel of the community around the site seeing it build up some really interesting features. I worry that K is heading for a burn out and as he is the coding half of zooomr will basicall mean that it’s all over but fingers crossed we will have a really open and engaging site.
john
June 26th, 2007 at 12:01 pm
People have been telling me to try Zooomr so I signed up today. Overall, it looks promising but only after reading this thread do I now understand why so many of the things I have tried do not work.
As a new user, getting started was very frustrating. It would be nice if there were more indications on the site of what does and does not work.
June 26th, 2007 at 12:04 pm
It’s too bad that the transition from Mark II to MIII has been so hard on the developers and users. I really love Zooomr and I don’t like feeling frustrated when things don’t work. I’m sure you and Kristopher find it difficult as well.
Anyway, I have a question about Pro Blogger accounts. I currently have one of those and I’m wondering what kinds of changes I’ll see in the service when my Pro status expires. (I’m assuming it will expire eventually.) Will there be a maximum photo limit like on Flickr? Should I expect any major changes besides more ads and not being able to see the Pro screen in Discover?
Thanks, and I’m looking forward to seeing Zooomr running at 100% again! Hang in there =)
June 26th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
“ncognito, hiding them now means doing this coding work at the expense of fixing other bugs. like showing an exact marker on geotags that you mention. All of this will get done, it’s a matter of prioritization.”
Honestly, that couldn’t take longer than 30 seconds to remove. Besides, the question is *WHY* was it linked to, and announced, in the first place. Doesn’t bode well for everything else you guys say and do. Just focus on getting the basics right first, run before you walk, etc. etc.
June 26th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
@Thomas/Kris
I’ve been a big fan of Zooomr since I first heard about it, but I have to agree with the masses on this one. Mark III is really still in a beta release. I don’t mean “beta” in the “web 2.0″ sense of the word, where everything is in a perpetual beta release. I mean that the site is still buggy and missing a lot of (core?) functionality - the users are helping to debug the program (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_cycle#Beta). You can’t really expect beta testers to pay for the application they are helping fix, can you?
Rather than open up Pro Accounts, why not just allow users to donate? Keep in mind that people can donate things besides money - like time. The Zooomr development team is a one man show - have you thought about expanding that or opening up the code base for “donations?” I’m not sure what legal ramifications that may have, but it seems pretty evident that Zooomr is beginning to get too large for just one person to create and maintain.
June 26th, 2007 at 3:46 pm
@Jesse..I’ve suggested this before, but it’s fallen on deaf ears. Zooomr as it stands now, is clearly too big for one programmer, no matter how skilled said programmer is.
By it’s nature, Zooomr attracts a more technical crowd; Thomas and Kris could leverage this, but haven’t. Send word out for a few developers who are experienced with Python/C/Postgress/ and web technologies; you could also throw in a designer/UI person. Find a select few folks, bring ‘em up to speed, establish a change management process, and let ‘em loose.
Hell…you could get folks to work on this thing for free with the community that has developed around it.
But, it’s not happening, and it probably won’t. That is I think what’s depressing about this whole thing. Anyway, that’s my 2 cents…
Here’s hoping Zooomr is still around 2 months from now…
June 26th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
hey, I too would go pro but until the bugs are ironed out..
I’m unable to add tags to photos that are already uploaded, is this a bug or something I’m missing?
June 26th, 2007 at 7:09 pm
Savage, you should be able to add tags no problem to pohtos that you have uploded. Adding tags to other’s photos will be implemented shortly when we have a tool for users to be able to choose whether or not they want to allow people to tag their photos or not.
June 26th, 2007 at 8:02 pm
The biggest thing for me is what a few other folks mentioned. I’m a linux user and have no way to upload system on my primary personal computer, my home laptop. I use windows at work but have no time there to do uploads and they’d probably end up blocking the site as they do that when they realize people are draining bandwidth by going to one site to often (like myspace). I use Kubuntu Linux (KDE variant of Ubuntu) and neither the online uploader with firefox nor the current version of jUploader. My strongest hope in this area is that you will get the APIs to the author of jUploader asap as he seems more than willing to update his program as soon as he gets the new APIs from you guys. I was able to successfully use it before and it made a big difference. Someone suggested using Wine to open the Windows version of Firefox. Well, I can do that as my Linux side has read/write access to the XP partition but it runs slow opening up programs and I don’t feel I should have to do that. We Linux users are indeed a smaller community but we need the same upload functionality as Windows & Mac. Please work on the jUploader APIs. I know the author is willing as he stated on his site that he is only waiting on the APIs.
Next, I have a suggestion regarding donations. As this is a start-up company with the potential to explode big time in the future, why not utilize the donations to those who do so a small slice of the pie (so to speak)? Even if it’s a tiny percentage that you could work out based on each donation and keep track of who gives what so their “slice” could be updated as they donated, this might just entice more people to give money as they then would be invested, however small, in the company. I know Microsoft even did that with their initial employees, many of whom are now multi-millionares. Even if someone donating $20 only got a tenth of one percent (just an example figure) or lower, that might become substantial in the future for them and give them cause to increase their donation giving to a regular basis. You wouldn’t even have to keep this as a permanent solution but perhaps try it over a few months to a year to raise some dough. The hard core crowd you have would likely respond very willingly if they not only loved the site but felt they were part owners/investors even if it’s to a tiny degree. Just a thought.
To Thomas in particular … he does respond to emails as he got my log-in switched over from openid quickly when I sent him an email. Only disadvantage at this time is not being able to access and change account settings on your own. Makes one feel less secure.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:27 pm
Thomas & Kris:
I can see the progress, and I’m glad of it. The ‘infinite upload’ page worked like a charm for me. I hope smart sets returns soon, and I really want trackbacks, the original version, not the ‘top 20′ to return too.
I’m glad you’re finally rolling out paid accounts. I was thinking you should have done it sooner, but then think of all the additional flak you’d be getting now if you’d taken people’s money *before* the server crash!
I have been a little bit discouraged by the crash and all the holes in MkIII, but I can see where you’re going and can see the progress happening little by little. Kristopher really needs to get some help on the keyboard I think. You guys are awfully proud of being such a small company with only one developer–it’s amazing, it’s true, and Kristopher’s skills, work ethic, attitude and generosity are awesome indeed; but it’s also a major deficit, because (not to be morbid, but) if he were to get hit crossing the street tomorrow, Zooomr would be toast the day after. I worry about this.
Kris made me a Pro4Life early on, which certainly won my loyalty. Your commitment to non-censorship helped cement that. I sent some money immediately after the crash, just because. Wasn’t much, but then I don’t have much. I will probably try to shell out a bit more soon, because I want you to succeed and do so as quickly as possible.
Just please, keep the progress going and get Kristopher a little more help as soon as you can. No one person should be carrying as much of a load as he seems to be doing.
I use Zooomr largely for posting images to my Livejournal, but am willing to try and be a part of the community here too, if I can find some kindred souls.
Good luck and keep plugging those holes. I’m sticking it out for the long haul and hoping it pays off for all of us!
June 27th, 2007 at 12:03 am
Zooomr rocks!
If you’re not Pro already, become one!
June 27th, 2007 at 1:28 am
ProForLife and Paid up.
You know, I get discouraged sometimes when I have problems uploading or that components don’t work in MKIII and I wonder why these were not working in the dev version prior to the cut over. But this is Beta so I forgive some of those issues. I know they will be ironed out and I have faith that Zooomr will be around for a long time to come. But I am here because I have been with Zooomr for a long time and have seen it go from MKI - MKII and then MKIII. Each have had their associated problems and functionality has been sketchy, but I don’t doubt the commitment from Kristopher & Thomas and I love the community.
June 27th, 2007 at 3:44 am
It’s good to see Zooomr finally developing some revenue, this and the stock photography will certainly make things a lot better for zooomr.
Keep up the good work on the features Kris, I’m sure they’ll be released in good time; all the small things that are making people leave discouraging comments will I’m sure be fixed- but people are forgetting that Kris is the only programmer working on zooomr and that getting the site running to this level in itself is amazing.
So keep up the good work Kris and Tom.
June 27th, 2007 at 5:59 am
I’m with you, guys. I love the fresh feeling that the site transmits and in part is because the product is still not perfectly finished. I think I’ll pay those twenty bucks next week.
btw, consider to admit some extra help. I would be happy to write some code to add a new feature or clean up the generated html. You don’t need to go full open source if you don’t want to do it (although think about slashdot, their software is opensource) but try to create a plugin system or something like that…
And keep improving!!!
June 27th, 2007 at 6:44 am
——————–
- @ krist / thomas -
——————–
I am thoroughly confused at the lack of progress. I’ll explain why:
1. The community seems amazing. Lots of people, lots of love.
2. Any online community is bound to have a reasonable number of competent hackers.
3. The excuse that keeps coming up - “We’re only a 2 man team.” or “We only have one software engineer working.”
…
So to me, 1+2 completely contradict 3. What gives? I don’t get the impression that you guys are against community support (look at the translations rolling in), but why the barrier on development??
And I don’t mean pay-for-development… I find it utterly impossible to comprehend the situation where there wouldn’t be a single web developer in the community willing to donate their time to help zooomr.
— Clarification available?? —
June 27th, 2007 at 6:53 am
thomas
alluding to the issues zooomr has now, i had one particular one which i posted
http://blog.zooomr.com/2007/06/23/zooomr-power/#comment-107786
Basically some of photos are showing thumbnails on the detail pages. These were working fine a few days ago. Is this a bug being introduced or loss of data . if the latter its a bit concerning. Really not feasible to upload all the ones which have issues. Any ideas ?
June 27th, 2007 at 6:55 am
i agree with “me” above and was going to post the same thing. A product like ‘gallery’ for example is a similar app but community shared. Is it possible to open the source for zooomr in some sort of controlled way so more people can help out fixing and developing features ?
June 27th, 2007 at 7:31 am
Re: venkat
Open source is the ideal. Not essential.
I’m sure there are those out there that would sign an NDA to help Zooomr throught this time. Instead of buying a status symbol (and that’s all it is for now) Pro Account, I’d much rather dedicate my time to helping the site directly.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:43 am
Hi Kris & Thomas I am a Pro account user thanks to the blogging deal sometime ago. I wold not mind paying for a pro account since its cheaper than flickr, only after the Tags and smartsets are fixed bring it back to funtionality please… ^^
As a suggestion why not ask for volunteers from the community to help with the software engineering or bug squashing. I am sure there are some programers here in the community who might be willing to help. I am no software engineer and I would help if I could. You could reward them with some special goodies for their efforts on Zooomr.
Will you guy be looking to get external funding besides ZOHO & Sun?
June 27th, 2007 at 1:59 pm
Thomas,
“Because of that we’ve limited the size of pics on Zooomr to 500px for the time being.” Security through obscurity basically never works: anyone who knows how to read URLs still has access to the original photo. All it takes is to add two characters to the file name. (BTW: That other photo sharing site uses the same method and even the same two characters. I still wonder why this is so.)
This isn’t a big issue on my photos because I’m not planning to sell them. And anyone who wants to steal my pics is a sad git lacking in taste.
Anyway. What’s far more bothering is the fact that photos which have been marked as private by me are still showing up as thumbnails on my zipline, visible for everyone. (And this isn’t even a new bug in MIII because something similar was happening in M2: I’ve seen girls in various states of undress which certainly weren’t meant for my eyes – on the page listing those users with the highest number of pictures.)
I’m with me and venkat: open up the source. Have others work for you. For free.
June 28th, 2007 at 12:37 am
Honestly, without half the features up and running for me to try how can you expect me to shell out money for a car that doesn’t start or have all it’s wheels? This is a really bad business plan you guys have. I would love to take your word for it Thomas but with as fast as things come and go on the net I just can’t. Get a fully functional site, then try and separate me from my money.
June 28th, 2007 at 4:10 am
I’d consider going pro, except that I can’t upload any photos and I mentioned it on the help forum yesterday, after some other guy did the same, and neither of us has got any response, even if it’s just to say that there are known problems or that they’re looking into it.
I also find the “go pro” add a bit obtrusive…
June 28th, 2007 at 7:22 am
I’d really love an official responce from the 2-man team.
http://blog.zooomr.com/2007/06/25/zooomr-launches-paid-pro-accounts/#comment-110578
June 28th, 2007 at 8:41 am
I believe they have their reasons why they did not recruit volunteers into the development team.
June 28th, 2007 at 9:01 am
re: zhu
I’m sure they do. I’m just wondering why I can’t find those reasons in such a “transparent” project…
June 28th, 2007 at 10:26 am
It’s becoming pretty clear that zooomr is the hobby of a whiz kid. You talk about business plan or model? You talk about project management? You talk about ‘customer’ service/relationship, etc etc? You MUST be kidding. This is a “community”, so to speak, built around the favourite toy of a big boy.
Here is a car. It’s designed for the future. It can fly. It will take you to the moon, or even to far far away in the galaxy. There are some minor flaws at the moment, eg. 2 out of 4 wheels are missing, 1 door is not there, another door cannot be locked, it leaks gasoline, the wind shield is cracked…. But it doesn’t matter, cos it’s designed to be the best car you can ever dream of, and our boy is working so hard all the time to improve its colour, to make it look even better.
Volunteers? You must be kidding again. Getting volunteers on board would take the fun part away from our boy, who loves to do it hands on. And don’t you see “everybody” here likes to cheer him up & see him polishing the car which can not yet be driven.
If you believe in this dream, take out your credit card. $20 is a small sum compared to the promise to fly you to the verge of the universe.
Don’t worry, guys, all features — the wheels, the wings, the locks, the doors (which you think is missing)– will be back soon, real soon … in weeks, they would certainly promise. Mind you, the “s” in weekS can be indefinite.
June 28th, 2007 at 10:31 am
what happened to my pro4life account? I had it until you rolled out this feature when it disappeared!
June 28th, 2007 at 10:58 am
what happened to my pro4life account? I had it until you rolled out this feature when it disappeared!
Stabani. It’s still there. It will be back shortly!
Here is a car. It’s designed for the future. It can fly. It will take you to the moon, or even to far far away in the galaxy. There are some minor flaws at the moment, eg. 2 out of 4 wheels are missing,
yj, actually Zooomr is very useable for me today. I host my photos there. I interact with people on zipline and on their photos. I participate in groups. It works quite well actually.
But I certainly miss some of our old features. And really can’t wait to have them back. Especially SmartSets.
But Zooomr is not a car with only two wheels. It runs and drives. And is getting better and better.
June 28th, 2007 at 11:07 am
@Thomas: So you are still reading this comment thread…can you please reply (or have Kris reply) to:
http://blog.zooomr.com/2007/06/25/zooomr-launches-paid-pro-accounts/#comment-110578
June 29th, 2007 at 1:31 am
I started a new photo presence over at ipernity because it is stable and has features I like. I think the way Zooomr is being built right now is very chaotic and Zooomr lacks a lot of features making me think whether all the great plans will come true one day.
However, what is the whining all about?
Zooomr is a great community for that it has so many great people and photographers on board. I like it here and I like the photographs I can see here. Why are so many people hesitant to support such a great spirit and spend more money for less elsewhere?
I just went pro although my participation here on Zooomr is only occasionally. So what? You people at Zooomr have the will to create and you deserve and will receive my continued support.
June 29th, 2007 at 3:01 am
Re: Photomotion
You’re missing the point. There are claims of community everywhere through this site/blog/comments/wiki. Where is the development community? Why don’t they have a voice/opportunity to help Kris out?
There is a great community, and with any great online community there’s bound to be hackers kickin around. I know one programmer can’t work miracles, but at this point another 20 bones won’t put as many features back on the table as volunteered development time.
Kris/Thomas: Please, I’d like an answer:
http://blog.zooomr.com/2007/06/25/zooomr-launches-paid-pro-accounts/#comment-110578
June 29th, 2007 at 4:19 am
@me: I am not missing the point. You take care of the amount of support you are willing to spend, let them decide on the resources. I see no point in discussion, it does not support.
This blog post is named “Zooomr Launches Paid Pro Accounts”. It is not named “Place reasons why you not pay for pro here”.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:25 am
re: photomotion
“You take care of the amount of support you are willing to spend, let them decide on the resources.”
I am willing to help program the site to release essential features everyone is asking for.
I am willing to recruit a number of individuals that would do the same.
None of this banks on the condition of releasing the site’s source code (although that would be nice).
…
So how will these new resources be used? I’m terribly sorry for hijacking a blog post thread about this, but no other means of communication seems to work (zmail, email, zipline messages, etc).
I’m open to suggestions (not intended to be read with a sarcastic twist).
Ultimately, I’d just like an explanation from the zooomr core team.
June 29th, 2007 at 9:10 am
I think that was the worst sobby story video I have ever seen. Is it just me, or is ZOOOMR a complete rip off of Flickr?
“So can you please just give us money because we do have investors.. and blah blah”
Lame..
June 29th, 2007 at 9:10 am
I think that was the worst sobby story video I have ever seen. Is it just me, or is ZOOOMR a complete rip off of Flickr?
“So can you please just give us money because we do have investors.. and blah blah”
Lame..
June 29th, 2007 at 9:02 pm
To Kristopher & Thomas: I’m a new member here at Zooomr, and noticed a lot of complaints, suggestions, and yet more complaints, especially here in this thread. My question is basically this: Do you need help? I’d be more than willing to contribute towards Zooomr by spending my own time, considering I don’t have that much moolah to throw around, and while I’m still an Undergrad my time isn’t worth that much. I know you don’t want a bunch of idiots working on Zooomr, but If you actually are interested I could contact you with more information regarding my credentials and qualifications.
If having only one person working on Zooomr is hindering It’s development, why not open it up to the community? (Selectively, of course). You have said yourself in other posts that you can work on Zooomr from anywhere, like coffee shops, etc. So it should be easy enough to have Zooomr as a Global project. Please don’t ignore this and please DO take this as a sincere effort to help the community.
Sincerely,
Blake
July 1st, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Any plans for EMAIL Uploads? Web uploads tend to fail quite often.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:49 am
What a joke…sets _still_ don’t work… photos that have been geotagged don’t show pins in the maps…groups are impossible to navigate and they still lack photo pools…I can’t add contacts to see other folks ziplines…apparently uploads don’t work well (I wouldn’t know as I’m waiting for sets to come back before uploading more photos!)…
I wouldn’t mind, but we were told that features would be fixed while you guys were waiting in line for the iPhone (not too mention the fact that they were supposed to be in M3 from the beginning…but that gets a pass for right now…). OK. The iPhone has come and gone, and so where are the ‘new’ features?
And you want your community to buy Pro accounts?
As I’ve said before (and several other people in the community have also echoed) Zooomr is too big to be one programmers hobby project now; other people need to be brought in (you have had offers of folks to work for free!) and get this stuff fixed.
But, there has been no official response to any of these complaints…
I think I’m done. I usually root for the underdog, and I love to check out bleeding edge tools and communities, but my goodwill is running to an end.
I might come back when M3 is fully alive…let us know when that happens.
“I’m sad now…”
-Hubert J Farnsworth
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:01 am
kris,thomas
Can you please respond to
http://blog.zooomr.com/2007/06/23/zooomr-power/#comment-107786
thanks
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:37 am
I reckon we’re just being told one porkie after another. There’s no evidence of any fixes or added features being done during the “jolly iphone weekend”. I reckon that we don’t have sets because the tags have been lost, and nobody will admit to it. Similarly with the exif data… where is it?
Somebody needs to a) come clean and tell the punters what’s happened to their data; b) back up their claims with hard evidence, and c) tell us the details of the plan to resurrect this damned mess.
Maybe we should have MkII back again while MkIII is fixed in the sandbox, which is what should have been done in the first place.
My bottle of community spirit is almost empty, I’m down to the dregs. They taste bitter, but I’m willing to share them with you.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:55 pm
Hey y’all.. I’ve been reading some of the comments here and I’m kind of disappointed. He has gone through a lot of work to get this site to where its at now. Don’t forget this a “beta” site. Things are bound to break. Its not desirable, but sometimes its expected to break. With all things, come growing pains.
Sure use the site, get all your pictures uploaded, test it out, run it to the ground, drag it up and down the stairs. Find the bugs and let them know whats wrong. How else are things going to get fixed if nothing is said about it. Just be sure to keep a back up of all the pictures you upload.
I know I will.
Anyways, If I had a good income (or any income for that matter that I could spare) I’d definately throw you guys a few bucks and upgrade to the pro account maybe even a bit more. This site is wicked cool looking easy to use. I think its better than Flickr and most definately better than Photobucket. The more I use it, the more I learn of what it offers. I see great things in the future for this place.
Keep up the great work!
July 5th, 2007 at 1:59 am
@ Sc00tz:
“Find the bugs and let them know whats wrong. How else are things going to get fixed if nothing is said about it.”
We are finding the bugs, we are letting them know. We just aren’t seeing any fixes, or efforts towards fixes, or a schedule for the fixes.
We get told that things are going on, but we can’t see that, what we can see is a load of tosh about a new phone and a weekend when fixes were promised but not delivered.
We’re being treated like mushrooms…
kept in the dark and fed cr@p.
July 5th, 2007 at 7:07 am
- The bugs have been reported.
- Many of us can’t afford to pump cash into the site (even if we wanted to).
- Some of us can help in other was (read: fixing the bugs)
- There hasn’t been a SINGLE official reply by Kris or Thomas on this issue.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:47 pm
Are there plans for an iphoto plugin and/or app. The java uploader is fine but I prefer to run everything from iphoto direct, that’s a big missing bit for me. If there are plans for an iphoto plugin I’ll drop my pro cash.
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